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Spiritual, not religious

by Confuddled @ 2007-12-17 - 20:29:21

Being that time of year, couldn't resist a religious posting!

Whenever I'm asked to complete a form to indicate my religious belief, I a) never complete it; and b)if I did, none of the boxes really seem to fit what I believe. The closest seems to be the term "spiritual, not religious" but even then, I'm not sure.
I was brought up as a Christian in the Methodist faith and actually enjoyed going to Sunday school as a child. Don't remember anything I was taught, but it was a good social event. Once I hit my teens, I became disillusioned with organised/institutional religion. There just seemed to be far too much dogma and hypocrisy for my liking - and I'm not even talking about fundementalism. So, I had a bit of an internal battle at first.
You see, I'm not an agnostic, nor am I an atheist. Throughout my years of questioning, I fundementally still believed. What I realised was that my view of God (or whatever name you wish to use)is different to that taught in organised religions. I really don't subscribe to the view that salvation will only come to those who hold a certain religious view point and damned be to the rest of us (by the way, I don't believe in heaven or hell either). In many ways, I do agree with Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens who criticise religion as the basis for much of what is wrong in the world today. But that's probably as far as it goes.
To me my beliefs are deeply personal and I do think each individual needs to find their own Truth. I'm a bit of a magpie in that I have read books on many different religions and spiritual/new age beliefs; gone on various courses and workshops; and basically have taken on board the bits that make sense to me. Things have also happened to me which have added to and strengthened some of my beliefs. Generally, my aim is to try keeping my mind open to possibilities and not closing it down. If we think about what we know as true and as fact today, it has actually changed over time. So, who knows what we'll know as fact & truth in years to come.
What I also used to battle with is the label. I tend to rebel against anything that tries to put me into a box and label it. As soon as we label things, preconceptions are formed and judgements made (not always in the positive). I don't fit into the religious label, nor do I totally fit the spiritual label either. As mentioned, to me it is about taking on board what I feel is right and it is very much an inner journey. I'm not big on gurus although I do like rocks/crystals. But then, they held a fascination for me since childhood and long before I was aware of their new age connections. I now longer battle with the label - I've realised it is actually immaterial. If others wish to attribute labels because it helps them make sense of the world, then let them do so. I just don't fill out forms and if I have to categorise my belief, I do stick to "spiritual, not religious".
Having said all that, in many ways I do still worry (more than I should) about what people I already know think. In that sense I find it much easier to speak to strangers on this subject. But, it is a part of who I am. It is also an important part which is growing as I continue to find out what makes sense to me.

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jackfrostjackfrost pro
2007-12-17 @ 20:34

I am agnostic it is not possible to have absolute or certain knowledge of the existence or nonexistence of God or gods, but I think we must be here for a purpose....it is just that the religions on earth have been invented by man to control people..Heavy subject|-|

ConfuddledConfuddled pro
2007-12-17 @ 20:36

Agree that religions have been used as a means of control and agree it is a rather heavy subject!

playfulplayful [Member]
2007-12-17 @ 20:52

I share your view although I am also comfortable to have a label "Christian". I think Christianity gave more intelligent answer as compared to the rest which I find it difficult to grasp. Example, Buddhism.: I could not make sense of the teachings which is uninteligible and I find that too much self effort to save oneself is involved. Well, maybe it is able to help other people.
I like Islam but after a while I could not accept their extremism and violence. So that is out for me.

ConfuddledConfuddled pro
2007-12-17 @ 21:38

Thanks for visiting my blog and commenting.
I guess the main reason why I don't feel I can call myself a "Christian", even though it is the faith I was brought up on, is I don't actually believe Jesus was the son of God in the way that is preached. I believe he was a very enlightend man. So for me that is out. Similarly there seems to be something fundemental I don't agree with when it comes to the other major religions. Hence my magpie approach.

kevinwilsonkevinwilson pro
2007-12-17 @ 23:51

you sound a lot like me...i don't like labels and i don't care for people who can be so convinced that something is absolutely right.
nothing is ever that certain.
but i believe in a spiritual element.

PrettyintelligentprincessPrettyintelligentprincess [Member]
2007-12-18 @ 00:22

I am with Jack Frost on this one. Over 100 'gospels' I believe...and 4 'chosen'.
I believe Jesus existed. I believe he was a radical, a 'troublemaker' a 'human rights activist.' and people followed.
Just refelct on Darwinism and how that absolutely shook the very foundations of the 'power' of many churches.I still feel guilt with many things I do in my life, yet I have my own type of faith in my inner self...hidden deeply. I admire so much those who have such strong faith and forgiveness though.I also admire the discipline and focus of those with faith...not radicalism...just faith...Amir Khan for example. His faith is his meditation and his strength. I can never find that. No matter how hard I try. I always wander into something 'unacceptable' or 'sinful.' I do not feel condemned...I feel alive and I have many layers. Some comfortable. Some not. I think I am too complicated and perhaps live for now...I don't believe in a next life...a second chance.

ranfuchsranfuchs pro
2007-12-21 @ 21:14

Can you put non-hypocrite as a religion?

ConfuddledConfuddled pro
2007-12-21 @ 21:16

Well, if Star Wars can be a religion then I don't think why not?!

Hi Confuddled here is some of what makes sense to me on my unique spiritual journey. I truly believe that is as unique as a fingerprint for each questioning soul.

We each came into this lifetime needing certain lessons. So one religion fits for one person, but does not for another. Parts of one religion might fit for you, but not for others.

I do believe it is important to believe in a Higher Power - by whatever name. When one looks at the orderliness of the universe and nature, one realizes something had to create it. In my 20's I was agnostic. Understanding astrology changed all that for me due to patterns and cycles and I began to realize the Big Bang Theory of Evolution just didn't cut it for me.

People I have counselling over the years, I have told them they have to realize two things in finding their spirituality:
1. it is a process that evolves over time - so take what you need at this moment in time and discard the rest.
2. Create the Spirituality of Confuddled with the result.

Gurus scare me. People speaking from the pulpit speak only what they were taught to believe. It doesn't mean I have to buy into their beliefs. I do believe if we continually question ourselves "what fits for me?", then we will find the right answer for our soul's journey.

I was raised in a very religious home and rejected it by age 8 because I questioned and "they" didn't have answers that satisfied me. Religions don't like their flock to question. I turned Catholic when I became a Catholic School administrator - took loks of university courses on Christianity and still didn't get the answers.

Nope, for me, the answers are blowing in the wind [ie nature] and dancing in the moonlight [ie the stars]!

I will be writing more on this in the new year. Check out my website that is in it's infancy. www.moonwomenspirituality.com

ConfuddledConfuddled pro
2007-12-24 @ 14:27

Many thanks for your comments and agree with what you've said. I will check out your website.
Love & Light,
M

birdsongbirdsong pro
2008-01-01 @ 21:38

I wonder if this is something to do with having 'faith' as opposed to having 'religion'?
Spirituality is a different thing altogether isn't it? Awareness and exploration of the inner self and all that?
My business partner is a member of a 'reform' Jewish community but he has no faith. He speaks on Jewish issues and is very articulate on culture and history of the 'religion' but won't publically admit that he doesn't believe in any of the God stuff.

It is very easy to have the later without the former, and I think now I understand that it is also possile to have the former without 'belonging' to any of the latter.

I heard a Brahmin say recently that the major religions of the world are rivers that help us find a path to the same sea. This is what I believe, and I am a relatively new and excited (and enlightened) Christian

ConfuddledConfuddled pro
2008-01-01 @ 22:19

Thanks for your thought provoking comments. For me spirituality is more than awareness and exploration of inner self etc... It has a "religious" aspect to it.
I do however think, as you've pointed out, there is something about faith vs religion; and agree that religions are in fact "rivers that help us find a path to the same sea". We each need to find the river that makes sense to us and that feels right.

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